Comment by SWAC Girl

February 15, 2007 @ 6:22 pm

Thank YOU, Badrose, for your well thought-out post to Virgil. All I can say is ditto, ditto, ditto. You get it, Girlfriend!

Comment by MB

February 15, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

Oh, don’t worry, he’ll be taking up the cause of the stupid for another two years, at least.

Comment by Badrose

February 15, 2007 @ 7:55 pm

MB: Stupid as in . . .?

Comment by MB

February 15, 2007 @ 8:31 pm

Stupid as in pretty much everything you just said up there. If you think that Virgil Goode is accomplishing a damn thing by spewing such ignorance, then, well, yes, he’ll be representing you well up there. Congrats on getting the representation you deserve.

Comment by Kilo

February 15, 2007 @ 8:49 pm

Don’t worry Badrose. People like MB , Waldo, and Lowell will protect us.

Comment by Thomas Krehbiel

February 15, 2007 @ 8:58 pm

Who’s going to temper the behavior of radical Christians?

Comment by Kilo

February 15, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

I think they behead them dont they Thomas Krehbiel ? Is that not what they do to infidels?
Please enlighten us with a comparison in violence between Christian and RADICAL Muslim factions.
I must have missed the news stories of Christians beheading non believers. Or attacking embassies, ships, military bases, skyscrapers?

Comment by Badrose

February 15, 2007 @ 9:31 pm

MB: Are you saying that global warming is a greater threat than terrorism? If you can articulate your difference in opinion without being insulting, then please do. Please change my mind on this. Then maybe I can hang with the “cool” crowd.

Comment by Badrose

February 15, 2007 @ 9:35 pm

Thomas: While annoying as hell (tee hee) I don’t see radical Christians as being that big of a threat. Do we have to rehash the whole Crusades thingy now??

Comment by Badrose

February 15, 2007 @ 9:37 pm

Thanks, Kilo. I don’t need Lowell et al. I’ve got you!

Comment by MB

February 15, 2007 @ 10:30 pm

Well, that depends, Badrose, on whether you think that the truth is insulting or not. If it is, stop here.

If not, well, it’s idiot thinking like what you did right there - who the hell said anything about global warming? - that puts us in danger. Far more than anything else discussed in this post. Yes, there are people out there who would like to hurt and kill other people. That does not mean we throw away all goddamn sense and practice and run around like chickens with our heads cut off, blathering on about what’s printed on our money.

Yes, unfettered immigration would be a mess for the world. But no one - NO ONE - except the figments of Goode’s imagination is supporting unfettered immigration.

I suspect this country would be 10x better off than it is, if it didn’t have to spend so much time beating the stupid back.

~

When did you enlist, Kilo?

Comment by Alton

February 16, 2007 @ 8:54 am

When liberals have no other argument they tend to fall back on their favorite diversionary tactics. It’s simple to see, and these comments illustrate it perfectly.

MB cannot refute anything Virgil or Badrose stated, so he resorts to insults and dirty words.

Thomas, faced with the same dilemma, can only bring up ancient history. The difference Thomas, in case you didn’t know, is that Christianity underwent an enlightenment period about 700 years ago. Islam is yet to experience any such period, and is culturally 700 years behind the rest of the world.

Comment by Jam

February 16, 2007 @ 9:36 am

I wrote about this last year (http://www.americancivilization.net/
articles/2006/No_Border_No_Nation.htm) on why we don’t speak Pictish.

Immigration has to be controlled.

Islamic immigration should be curtailed and rigorously scrutinized to let very few in - because the proportion of naturally-occuring Islamists coming out of Islam is 10%, not 1%.

Thanks, Badrose.

Comment by MB

February 16, 2007 @ 2:01 pm

And it’s brilliant tacticians like Alton who, after claiming that the earth is flat, and everyone else rolls their eyes and walks away, says - “Ha! You can’t refute me! I win!”

Yes, Alton, you’re a *winner*.

~

And the rest of you lot would be well served to making an effort to actually learn a thing or three about this Big Scary Islam you sit in judgment on. Maybe even - gasp - meet a few muslims.

Comment by Alton

February 16, 2007 @ 5:19 pm

Nope, MB. I never said the earth is flat. Quite the opposite actually. Nice try at obfuscation, but it seems it is you who is denying the obvious.

I have learned a thing or three about Big Scary Islam. Perhaps you could open your enlightened mind for a moment and let me fill you in.

1)A recent Gallup Poll, based on interviews with 9,000 Muslims in 9 countries revealed some interesting facts; For example, I bet you think that the few radical islamists who do exist are poor, uneducated, and full of hopelessness and hate, right? Well, that would be wrong, but don’t feel bad MB, that’s what most people believe as well.

The Poll I just mentioned showed a statistically insignificant difference in the religiosity between moderate and radical Muslims. They also found that overall, radicals were better educated, had higher incomes, considered their future to be brighter, and had a higher self-esteem. In other words, just the type you would welcome in an immigration policy, right?

Ah ha, you say. It’s our way of life that the radicals abhor then. Nope, again you would be wrong. the responses were equal on the questions of “what do you most admire about the west?”. Both groups answers were statistically equal, with the top two values being western technology and liberty/democracy/freedom of speech.

How does one recognize a radical Islamist? One doesn’t, until it’s too late. How does a country safely decide on an immigration policy under these circumstances?

2)I’m sure i don’t have to take you by the hand and show you the hundreds of references to total world domination espoused by radical islamists, do I? I didn’t think so.

3)Are you comfortable with the tenet espoused by Muslims, and not just “radical” Muslims, that state something along these lines; Muslims are forbidden from obliging a non-Muslim to embrace Islam, but he should pay the tribute (a tax, called Jizyah) to Muslims readily and submissively, surrender to Islamic laws, and should not practice his polytheistic rituals openly.

4)I could go on, but this has turned into a rather lengthy piece for a comment section.

Thank you Badrose for allowing me to use your soapbox, (not to mention you kitchen counter and wireless).

Comment by Badrose

February 16, 2007 @ 10:10 pm

MB: No, the truth is not insulting; I the hell mentioned (rather inferred) global warming in my post above, as being less of a threat than radical Muslims.
I really hoped you would provide some facts to support your position but I see that you are apparently more interested in making false accusations and painting extreme scenarios.
Here’s our common ground: 1) We AGREE that there are people out there who would like to hurt and kill other people.
2) We AGREE that unfettered immigration would be a mess for the world.
Taking it a step further, having a loosely monitored and enforced immigration policy (one including minimum quotas) can be a mess for US.
Those are your first two dots. Check back here if you need help connecting them.

Comment by Badrose

February 16, 2007 @ 10:17 pm

J - excellent post. I agree with your figure of 10% being more accurate but I used 1% to prove the point that EVEN 1% means 10,000,000.
I’m supposed to fear 10,000,000 microbes living in my mattress but not 10,000,000 people who have sworn to kill me for being an infidel? I’m not THAT blonde!

Comment by MB

February 19, 2007 @ 10:14 pm

I really don’t believe that you “really hoped” any such thing, Badrose. You and idiots like Alton make grand pronouncements about the state of the world while having little to no actual experience with it. I’d like to pretty much leave you alone, condemned to your own world of ignorance, but here you are, spouting off as if you know the first thing.

If you actually gave a shit about the things you claim to, you’d bother learning more about the world.

Comment by Badrose

February 19, 2007 @ 11:38 pm

MB: Still waiting for some facts . . . still getting pointless name-calling, accusations and assumptions . . .